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On a recent, must-see episode of the “Aubrey Marcus Podcast,” host Aubrey Marcus was joined by molecular biologist Aditi Bhargava, Ph.D., director of laboratory research at University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), and Brianne Dressen and Kyle Warner, both of whom were injured by COVID vaccines.

Bhargava explained how “COVID has really exposed a lot of loopholes in the scientific process,” and denounced gain-of-function research, which may have played a role in the origin of COVID, as “playing with fire.

Bhargava, a scientist developing different mRNA technologies at the USFC lab, said the medicines referred to as COVID vaccines do not qualify as vaccines but are instead imperfect drugs.

“When you look at the technical, historical term of a vaccine, it’s centered around preventing infection, which the polio and chickenpox vaccines do very well,” Bhargava said. “But if you apply the same definition to COVID vaccines and ask if they prevent infection or transmission, the answer is no.”

Bahrgava said because COVID vaccines don’t prevent infection, transmission or even severe illness in many cases, “then in my mind, this doesn’t really qualify as being a vaccine.”

Marcus then interviewed Dressen and Warner about their COVID vaccines injuries.

Dressen, a teacher who participated in the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine trial, experienced myriad “crippling” neurological problems after the first shot.

Warner, a professional mountain biker, developed severe heart damage and reactive arthritis following his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

Both Dressen and Warner were originally diagnosed by doctors as suffering from “anxiety” before they received proper diagnosis months later.

Watch the interview here: